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date: 2019-08-12
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weight: 1
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tags:
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- snarky
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categories:
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- polyamory
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- mom
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- dad
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- jay
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- julie
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My parents put me through three divorces. My mother and father divorced when I was very young. Young to the point where I don't remember them being married. I remember finding a picture of them walking with their arms around each other's backs. Dad was shirtless and chestnut brown, hair a near-black 'fro. Mom was in a white blouse, blonde hair in a perm. It seemed so alien to me.
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Mom and Jay got divorced when I was in my freshman year of high school. I remember being taken to a family therapy session for Jay's lingering divorce with his previous wife, but no such luck with his divorce with my mom. I just remember things getting bad after I came out, and then my mom coming downstairs to wake me one morning and inform me that we were moving out. Today. Now.
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I don't remember ever seeing Jay again after that, though I surely must have.
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> But you heard about him.
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Mom said he called Erin, my ex-step-sister a "witch". I don't think that's the word he used. A decade and a half later, she'd suggest that I go visit him.
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<a href="/jay" class="pulse">I turned her down</a>.
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> A sub-story. Do I sense conflict?
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Of course.
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> You may be made of star-stuff, but conflict seems to be what holds you together.
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Stop trying to get me to talk about mania.
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At first, I was proud of my relationships. Then I was embarrassed. There were so many, all in a line. One would trickle into existence with, as I put it, `light, in through the head, out through the heart`. We'd be perfect, until we weren't. Everything would be delightful, until it wasn't. It's the way of early relationships, I suppose. You fall for someone, and you can't quite pick apart the difference between love and lust.
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I just went through so many that I started feeling a bit weird about it. How do I talk about the Danny-Marek-Merlin-Andrew-Michael-Andy-Rikky-Kayla-Tyson-Andrew(again) progression? And how do I talk about Lon? Or what JD and I were at the beginning?
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> Doubtless with the same lilac-scented words you talk about everything.
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I guess.
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Early on, I promised myself that I would do anything to not become my dad, in so many ways. One of those was to not run my relationships like him. Some bits were easy, of course. I could start by being queer. That's glib, of course, but at the time I started dating, being queer required more discretion, more discussion than I saw in my dad's relationships.
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Some bits weren't so easy, though. The overlap between the discussion that's involved the mechanics of simply having a queer relationship and the discussion that's involved in having a healthy relationship, queer or not, is not non-existent, but neither is it large.
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> Are you going to provide us with a Venn Diagram? In hand-coded SVG, perhaps?
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[](/healthy-sound.svg)
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Happy?
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> Very. I just wanted to ensure that you were at your very Maddy-est about this.
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When my dad divorced Julie, he told her he hadn't loved her in ten years. He told her he married her because she was easy to deal with. Quiet. Compliant. Not as smart as him. He could be right around her, which wasn't always guaranteed with mom.
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Julie's friends gave her a rubber rat afterward. They had scribbled his name on it. The rat was sitting on a plaque that said `Rat Bastard`. The last time I saw her, she was very drunk, sagged against my side, sobbing and beating that rat against the nightstand.
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> And you didn't want to be like him when you grew up? Color me surprised.
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You *would* say that.
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He had started dating well before divorcing her. I don't know if he and Maurine are married now. When I told mom, she shrugged and said that he had started dating Julie before their own divorce.
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> You dovetailed relationships. You were dating Andrew well before you and Tyson fell away from each other.
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Hey, I said some bits weren't as easy. He left me with a lot of him in me.
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> Like the anger. He gave you that. The anger and the pride.
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I pay for his past as well as mine.
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So, when Michael mentioned that he wanted to go on a date with someone else while we were together, well, it touched a nerve.
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date: 2018-08-13
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weight: 2
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tags:
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- snarky
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- humor
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- demanding
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- questions
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categories:
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- polyamory
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- nostalgia
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- Ship of Theseus
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> I suppose you also searched your archives for poly.
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You know me so well.
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> Of course.
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The first mention on LiveJournal was April 6th, 2004.
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```
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Of the interesting topics that popped up, that of polygamy stuck with me the most. Michael has a date with another on Thursday and, while this brought up issues with Merlin and Atrius, all I can say right now to Michael is that I wish him the best of luck. It just feels like it would actually /work/ in his case. As to how it pertains to me, I'm not sure if my mind could handle having two mates. Granted I still have a thing for Kory (hah, good luck with that) and a few others, I just don't think I could find another who a) would be willing to have that sort of relationship with me and b) I could have that sort of relationship with. Ah well. Something to think about.
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```
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> Never one to have a high opinion of yourself.
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That's hindsight talking.
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> You literally just got out of a therapy session where you talked about how you don't believe you deserve a better job.
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Touché.
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Michael and I's relationship was rocky, tumultuous. We met through a queer group and from there wound up in a weird, heated romance that danced around sex, gender, mental health, everything. We fought, we made up. We got annoying. We made out a lot, we had sex, though with each of our individual hangups around sex, it was rarely penetrative.
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> It was penetrative once.
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That's rare, isn't it?
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> Vanishingly.
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Listen, we were both trans. The subject was complex.
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> You were a cis gay guy. You told me that. You were unsure of vaginas.
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It started that way, I suppose. I learned.
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> Then you bought one for yourself.
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Listen.
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> Yes?
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There were bits of sexuality that didn't work for me when I was bepenised. A lot of those make sense in a transgender context. Matthew was still a gay guy, but the Ship-of-Theseusizing was already beginning.
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> 'Bepenised'? 'Ship-of-Theseusizing'?
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You verbed it first.
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> We've gotten off track.
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Right.
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In two previous relationships, poly had come up, and neither time, it had worked. With Merlin and Atrius, I had immediately jumped to jealousy. I felt as though I was being set aside.
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> Never one to have a high opinion of yourself.
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It didn't last. That was part of the breaking point. Similarly with Andrew and Ryn. I've heard it said that jealousy is a sign that one's needs are not being met.
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> What did you need that you weren't getting?
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I thought it was someone to myself.
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> You couldn't own yourself, maybe you could own someone else.
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That hurts to hear.
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> Is it wrong?
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I don't know. Maybe it isn't. Maybe I wanted to keep someone. To possess them. Maybe it was a reaction to being owned.
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> Let's talk about kink.
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Let's fucking not.
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date: 2019-08-13
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- snarky
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- questions
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- dead years
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- Matthew
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- mom
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I won't repost them, because they're direct logs, shortly after the conversation mentioned before, the issue of Michael bringing another partner to the queer group we were a part of came up. How would we work a situation where I, coming from a monogamous point of view, would be in the same room with my partner and metamour? Would we split our time? Would one of us get ignored while the other got attention? Would we both get attention? Would we just plain avoid it?
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> It's surreal, even for me, to hear you talk about this today, given your current situation.
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<iframe src="https://polycul.es/embed/102761753ef05939b07477ceb25ef9df09db894f" width="980" height="520" style="border:0;"></iframe>
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Suppose that the young man, Matthew, is in a monogamous relationship with someone. As the years go by the relationship begins to change, fades, and is replaced by a new one, more open than the last. After a decade or so, all of the parts have been replaced and Matthew, now Madison, is in a polycule the size of Rhode Island. Is Madison still the same person as Matthew?
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> That's a bit heavy-handed.
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You can't start the metaphor train a-rollin' and then expect it to stop on a dime.
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> I'll own that.
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I met JD in 2005, and met Robin in 2012. By 2013, I was in a relationship with both, and we were sharing dinner, along with Robin's partner, at a convention. It was natural. Comfortable. It was fun.
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And now, I'm in relationships of various sorts with a half dozen people. The changes between then were so incremental, and discussed so thoroughly, that it really does feel Ship of Theseish.
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> Stop.
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Never.
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The other consequence of that is that, along the way, I sufficiently distanced myself from the mechanics of my parents' relationships that I finally felt comfortable in calling that dream fulfilled. The turning point was my mom, during one of her visits back to Colorado, mentioned my relationship with Robin as something she could never do.
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> Are you sure it wasn't writing a Python/Javascript/SVG web app to map polycules using force-directed layouts?
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Okay, maybe it was before then.
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> And score a point to the ally.
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I didn't feel better than my mom when she said that, of course. Her relationships matured well over time, I think. She and Bob got better at communicating and expressing their needs. And even if they hadn't, the love she had for all of her partners was no less valid for being monogamous.
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> Could you say the same of your dad, had he said that to you?
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I don't know.
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> Probably not.
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Yeah, probably not.
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